Forgotten Homestuck Facts

In the beta verse the flower in the frog temple holds things for years like a time capsule, But when Dirk and Roxy went into it in the alpha verse they went back in time

Anonymous

No they didn’t. They entered the Frog Temple in the furthest ring. The Temple was eventually sent thousands of years into Earth’s past via Skaia’s portals. So it’s actually linear.

John gave Roxy the ring of life so when Jane killed Roxy she lived, Jane just fell asleep before she could see it happen

Anonymous

John gave the ring to original Roxy who he is currently with. Jane killed retconned Roxy so now there’s an vacancy of Roxy’s in the retconned timeline that original Roxy will come and fill.

Every session has a first Guardians (alpha trolls had doc scratch, beta kids has Bec, alpha kids had gcat) So what were the Beta trolls and Calliborn's?

Anonymous

Doc Scratch was the beta trolls’ first guardian, not the alpha trolls. It hasn’t been stated in canon what/who the Cali’s or the alpha trolls’ first guardian is/was.

Gamzee never actually went god tier so why did he bother creating the costume?

Anonymous

To make people think he did.

what does retconning mean?

Anonymous

It means changing a previously stated fact.

Ok I get that post-scratch John made the alpha kids, but when, why, and how did he make them?

Anonymous

Pre-scratch John made the alpha kids towards the end of Act 4.

Ok lets see if I got this straight... On the ship JOhn's denizen knew about original John's time adventures so it killed retcon John (and davesprite) so there wouldnt be two Johns, leaving Jade alone for three years where she goes to sleep and meets an alternate Callie who tells her stuff. Much later Jane kills Roxy before Vriska puts her to sleep. Original Roxy and John will now enter the retcon universe with LOWAS

Anonymous

Yeah, pretty much.

Meta question: How in the world do you remember so much about Homestuck? Did you major in MSPAology in college?

Anonymous

Gosh I wish I could major in that. I just have a good memory and I usually check the comic/wiki before I saying anything I’m not 100% positive about.

About the Gamzee's Dream Self thing, isn't it implied that Gamzee doesn't die in any Timeline, Dream Self or not? The only Timeline where we've seen that happen didn't even become doomed, it was erased from ever being by John's retconning. And the lack of any Gamzee Ghost in the Dream Bubbles (Jadesprite showed to have been in the Bubbles it's to be assumed they have separate ghosts) would indicate it's still. Sort of perhaps drifting in the Furthest Ring? You can't keep the clown down. Sadly.

Anonymous

All ghost Gamzee are in the same place, a bubble separated from all the rest, all of them lying in a great giant horn pile and eating pie.

Do you think things could have turned out differently had Gamzee been the one paralyzed? (Asking for a friend whose working on an AU)

Anonymous

If Gamzee had been in Tavros’s place and thrown off the cliff he probably wouldn’t have been paralyzed since he’s a highblood and more durable to damage. If that had happened though the cycle of revenge wouldn’t have started so Aradia wouldn’t have died, Terezi wouldn’t have gone blind and Vriska wouldn’t have lost her arm and eye and Tavros, obviously wouldn’t have lost his ability to walk.