Forgotten Homestuck Facts

Who died first, Feferi or Tavros? Not in terms of the order it is read it, but in terms of the timeline of events (like, we saw Tavros die first, but did he actually die first or was it time shenanigans?)

Anonymous

Tavros died first.

Sorry if you've already answered this before, I'm a new follower, but why is Meenah's group considered the alpha trolls? That would make Karkat's group the betas then, right?

Anonymous

Yes, it’s based on what version of the game they played. Karkat’s group played the Sgrub Beta and Meenah’s group played the Sgrub Alpha.

how did jack come to be?

fuchsia-and-boonbucks

Which one? There’s kinda four of them.

Are you ready for tomorrow?

Anonymous

I sure hope so,

who died first, nepeta and equius or feferi?

Anonymous

Feferi

But Aradia's GT happened from her dreamself dying on the slab? So was Dave's? I can't be arsed to look into it but probably more too? I THINK it's for when there's ONE self left, regardless of if it's dreamself or not.

mathface-deactivated20170909

Yes

how exactly sollux came out of his dreambubble if he was dead

Anonymous

He was also half alive.

If the fact that Feferi hadn't created the dream bubbles yet is a reason for players from other sessions not to exist in them, how are the dancestors there? Meenah learned about the bubbles and killed all the players in her session to send them there before the scratch that created Feferi's universe in the first place.

alexisokay

The dreambubbles have pretty much always existed but they were unstable and kinda spooky (see [S] Jade: Wake Up). Feferi convinced the horrorterrors to make special bubbles that the protagonists could use. Time works differently in the furthest ring so while Feferi had only just had the bubbles created they had already existed for years. This can be seen with Jadesprite talking about all the friends they had made and acting like they’d been in the bubbles for a long time even though the bubbles had only technically been created s few hours earlier. So having the Beforus Trolls in the special bubbles Feferi had set up is totally possible.

Regarding the slabs, aren't they only to be used once a player has no dreamself left? I feel like the Quest Beds were made to use the dreamself, and the slabs were made in the event there is no dream self left.

mega-latias

Yes

im pretty sure caliope and caliborn live on the alpha kids earth, just in the far distant future, just like the exiles

seelcudoom

The Condesce had Jade bring Earth to the current B2 session so she could put it in the created universe. So yes, it’s the Alpha kids’ Earth, just in the distant future and in a different universe.