Which jack was in collide was the one that was helping karkat way back when

adam-korse

The robot one

Not a question, but i wanna thank you for posting "Hate you" when you found Meenah's and Condy's voice cause that's my jam!

yaebloom

I’m a fan of Temporal Shenanigans myself

So, when Caliborn did his whole segment where he depicted the whole battle between him and the beta kids, that was in between [S] Collide and Act 7? Or was that from a doomed timeline?

Anonymous

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Any sadstuck vantas facts (not including signless)

Anonymous

Karkat didn’t wake up on Prospit until after he beat the game and was on the Meteor. And then as soon as he woke up he saw Bec Noir, mistook him for his bro Jack Noir and was murdered.

So, in [S] Collide, they show the battle against LE as a future vision? And when the kids defeat their opponents nothing of that happens and it becomes what we watched on [S] Act 7 with Vriska?

Anonymous

The fight against LE happens at the same time as the fights of the kids.  Act 7 was finished before Collide which is why it looks like they haven’t been fighting with LE at all at the beginning of A7 

It's also because the "beta" trolls interact with the beta kids, and the "alpha" trolls (to a lesser extent) interact with the alpha kids.

pansexual-spaceman

The Alpha trolls actually interacted more with the Beta trolls and kids than they did with the alpha kids. In fact, Aside from Aranea talking to Jake that once, Meenah trying to kill dream Roxy, and Aranea highjacking their session in the GAME OVER Timeline, they really didn’t interact with the Alpha kids.

So, the clouds show the future to Jade and John?

Anonymous

And to any one on the Battlefield or occasionally Prospit’s moon

Why do the trolls have nightmares without their recuperacoons? I forget...

Anonymous

It’s never really explained but it’s most likely due to the physic ability of Purple blood trolls, Chucklevoodo

how did Gamzee not die after being shot so many times if he's not God tier?

Anonymous

Plot armor. He needed to stay alive to become part of LE.

Are kids in the dream bubbles? Or is it just a troll thing? also, why are the alpha trolls able to be in the dream bubbles after they died if they were created after their deaths?

Anonymous

Kids are allowed, yes. And time works differently in the Furthest Ring.