Forgotten Homestuck Facts

are lords and muses found only in 2 player sessions? lots of people seem to accept this as canon but I'm not sure?

Anonymous

I did a quick 2 minute search and didn’t find anything saying they were exclusive to 2player sessions. First person to find me a source that says they are exclusive wins.

~Mod T

can trolls be lords or muses or what? or can there be more than 12 trolls playing sgrub?

Anonymous

Trolls can. Those are incredibly rare and powerful classes though so it’s unlikely. And there can probably be more than 12 players, Hussie once said (albeit most likely jokingly) there was a 48 player Squiddles session.

~Mod T

I can fill in some gaps in this! There was a portal between the b1 universe and the b1 incipisphere universe in the frog ruin's on grandpa harley's island, which not only allowed grandpa to freely travel the beta kids' planets during their time and then leave, thus returning to a time before his death, retrieving jade's dead dreamself to his island. Now, potentially, the same or similar portal allowed for condesce's initial entry to b1 earth, before having to leave and being enslaved by english

sketchlynx

She was enslaved by English long before she went to Earth. She was the farthest she’d ever been away from Alternia when the Vast Glub happened, killing her Helmsman. It took her 612 sweeps to get back. Then the Handmaid appeared on her ship from Alternia’s Green Moon. )(IC killed her and began her work under LE. Her job was to be his “emissary” to go to the places he is unable to reach himself. Much how Doc Scratch allowed Lord English into the Trolls’ Universe it was the Condese job to let him into the kids’ universe. That’s why she’s there. As to how she got there, she probably flew. The Green Sun intersect the universes. The trolls flew the meteor there to rendezvous with Dave and Rose before going to the Alpha kid universe. So despite being incredibly difficult it’s entirely possible.

~Mod T

Don't forget the primary reason HIC probably decided to take over the Alpha Earth instead of Beta may have been because she was likely privy to the fact that the Alpha session wouldn't destroy the human race via meteors like Sburb would in the Beta-verse. Whether this was a result of Lord English's machinations or otherwise is still unknown.

Anonymous

Yes, good point.

~Mod T

andrewtrx replied to your post: anonymous asked:So, where do the …

But didn’t the Vast Glub kill all the Trolls in the universe after the 12 Troll kids entered?

Actually, the Vast Glub killed all the Trolls in the universe except for the Condesce after 11 of the trolls entered. Sollux didn’t make it in time and that’s how he lost his first life.

But we are speaking about the adult trolls before they all died.

~Mod T

In relation to the other ask, I had an idea of a fanfic where the Trollian Empire try to take over the Earth if SBURB never came into play. I'm still not clear on the technicals of Homestuck. Would that have been physically possible?

Anonymous

spirithealer118:

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But the Condesce tried, but a meteor kinda blew up her base of operation so she gave up and set out to the Post-Scratch Universe where she succeeded in taking over the Earth.
~Mod T
EDIT: So, the Condesce aka the baroness had disappeared long prior to when the factory blew, it was actually owned by Grandpa at the time. But Condy was still there at one point or another.
Actually, this has always been one of the great unsolved mysteries of Homestuck as far as I’m concerned. Earth and Alternia are described as residing in two different UNIVERSES, and therefore should not be able to be travelled between simply through space. So my deduction is that the Batterwitch in the Beta universe is the Condesce once she’s working for Lord English, sent back via time shenanigans to prepare the beta session before she went to take over the Alpha session? Correct me if I’m missing something…

That is actually fairly correct.

So why doesn't the Condense from the Alpha kids game take over? Do other things change when a scratch occurs other than the portals around Skia if so why weren't both sessions connected to that of the trolls?

marvindent-deactivated20150221

The Condesce did take over in the Alpha kids’ universe, she kinda rules the Earth and is the Queen of Derse.

The troll session created the Genesis Frog that holds both kids’ universes so in that regard they would be connected to the troll universe, except the troll universe kinda imploded on itself when sn8wman was killed and doesn’t really exist anymore.

~Mod T