Can a session that was created by a scratch, like the alpha kids' or Karkat's session, initiate a scratch?

entari0

I’m going to say no because a Scratch at it’s basic level just switches the ectobabies.  Once makes a difference, doing it a second time will just get the first results again and put the universe in an endless loop so I don’t Skaia would allow a second scratch.

How did Gamzee get inside Lil' Cal? I just read the new update and everyone's talking about that, but I think I missed it

vaulteddoors-blog

When Dirk stuck Caliborn and Arquius in Cal half of Gamzee got caught too. Caliborn didn’t say so in the naration so a lot of peps have been missing it.

Is what's happening in his right now the worst possibility that can happen in a game session

Anonymous

It’s pretty bad but I don’t think I’d say it’s the worst.  After all, at least not everyone is dead.

TRACE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RECENT HOMESTUCK UPDATES: BY BRAIN DOESN'T UNDERSTAND, HELP ME PLEASE.

Anonymous

traceexcalibur:

Caliborn is, in essence, explaining the “final boss battle” the kids wage against him, which wraps up a number of longstanding mysteries of the comic

so here we go:

  1. John, using his retcon powers, warps himself and the other 7 God Tier kids to go battle Caliborn, ambushing him before he becomes Lord English.
  2. They fight Caliborn and Gamzee; Gamzee is cut in half in the ensuing fracas.
  3. Caliborn activates the Juju he received upon completing his quest, the Homestuck Logo Thingy; it’s power traps John, Rose, Dave, and Jade’s souls inside it.
  4. Caliborn uses the Ring of Void to banish the Juju to the Dream Bubbles, where Vriska found it. This completes a time loop in which John gets the retcon powers in the first place, only to later be sealed away in the very object that give him the powers.
  5. The remaining four kids battle Caliborn.
  6. Caliborn defeats all of them, but Jake’s hope powers activate and allow him to deal massive damage to Caliborn. Caliborn, angered but impressed, decides to rename himself Lord English.
  7. Unfortunately, since Caliborn is basically immortal, the attack still only stuns him.
  8. Arquius launches a sudden and unexpected counter-attack, ambushing Caliborn with robotic horses (as foreshadowed by Hussie here).
  9. While Arquius holds onto Caliborn, Dirk uses his soul powers to trap Caliborn’s soul inside Lil Cal. Unfortunately, Arquius and half of Gamzee are also pulled into Lil Cal in the process, creating the horrible abomination known as Lord English.
  10. Roxy tries to banish Caliborn’s soul forever by sending Lil Cal into the void, but this allows Lil Cal access to the multiverse, presumably because Caliborn had the Ring of Void. Lil Cal’s existence has always been a bit of an unexplained paradox, and this finally explains how he was able to appear in Dave’s nightmares.

where does this leave us?

  • Lord English is continuing his multiversal rampage
  • the Beta Kids are trapped inside the Homestuck Logo Thingy, which is currently in the possession of either Meenah or Aradia
  • the Alpha kids are stuck on Caliborn’s planet without John to teleport them away
  • the surviving Trolls, who did not come with the Alpha kids, are probably stuck with the Condesce, who is continuing her plan to complete the Alpha kid’s session and create a new universe to rule over
So does this mean gamzee went insane cause a part of his soul (an insane part) has been cycling around the alpha timeline becoming part of Gamzee when he finds call and being physically removed and sucked back into lil cal?

mycuriouswanderer

When Gamzee looked into Cal’s eyes the piece of his soul in there probably told him everything he had to do for English to rise and that he was part his two mirthful messiahs. Which lead him to do everything he did and eventually end up right back there in Cal.

so what are the current paths of the two Cals? Gamzee summoned them to torment Dave -> Rose flings him out the window -> Bro brings him to the ectobiology lab along with his rocketboard -> Baby dirk teleports away with him -> Dirk's one eventually becomes LE when filled as a juju and it becomes banished, but what's happened to Dave's one after it got in the green suit? Is it with Spades Slick and Ms Paint?

psiidmon

Dave’s ended up with Gamzee who used it to turn B2 Jack into Jack English. That Cal is pretty much done now.

I’m going to update my lil cal timeline and I’ll probably reblog it later today or tomorrow

So wait, all of caliborns puppet show, hasnt happened yet right? Since he said he saw it on his screens. my question is, do his screens show him things from every timeline, or just the alpha?

punchywizard

Yes and Unknown.

I'm confused on how sacrificial slabs work (That's why I asked about Aradia) could you please explain?

Anonymous

Quest Beds require you to have two lives alive to use it. The Sacrificial Slab only needs one, in every other way it’s exactly the same as a Quest Bed.

Ok so since Equius and ar sprite got sucked into cal and I guess became one soul ? Was that alpha Equius' soul? Because that means he is a part of lord english too??

Anonymous

Yes, most likely.

How exactly was Doc Scratch created, and what makes him tied so close to Lord English's legacy with the recent upd8?

Anonymous

Doc Scratch was ectobiologically created using Lil Cal and Vriska’s cueball. Lil Cal is LE’s entrance ticket to new universes since LE is located inside him.
So for a Betty Crocker metaphor. Essentially, Lil Cal is a pack of gushers, Doc Scratch is the actual gusher, and LE is the delicious juices inside that once released assault your taste buds with its sweat artificial wrath.